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CommunityAdmin
06-03-2016, 05:13 PM
Dear Tycoons,

As we discussed and showed in our stream on June 1st (http://twitch.tv/rollercoastertycoon/v/69928040), our plan was to release an update this week containing a number of visual, AI, and performance improvements. However, this update was dependent on QA and testing, and as of today the build is not quite ready to go out. The changes in this update include core technical engine improvements, so we need a bit more time to polish them up. The good news is you won’t have to wait long - the patch is now scheduled to go live no later than next week, pending QA approval!

That said, we wanted to tease some of the cool stuff you’ll see next week! The biggest and most noticeable change will be our brand-new skybox, shown in the screenshot below and prior stream:

http://www.rollercoastertycoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/RCTW_2016-06-01_16-41-551.png

Not only did we add gorgeous new sunsets and sunrises, we also completely revamped the skybox, meaning that both daytime and nighttime effects are vastly improved. This profoundly effects the entire look and feel of the game during all times of day. We hope you like it as much as we do!

On top of that, this coming update will include an Alpha/First Stage Version of Staff Heat-Maps and a Mass Delete tool! It’s a package of really significant upgrades, and we are super excited to get it out as soon as we can!

See you next week! Thank you for all the support!

- Team RCTW

The Stig
06-03-2016, 08:25 PM
This was a nice surprise.

Casiquire
06-03-2016, 08:38 PM
Yes, can't wait!! That sunset looks really good

Forgath
06-04-2016, 12:37 AM
Thank you for the update!

Scott97
06-04-2016, 06:04 AM
I don't want to sound like a party pooper but imo the existing huge problems like memory leaks should be an absolute priority before new features are added. Lets hope some of these problems are fixed in this update and that it doesn't create new issues on top of those

inspectorgadget
06-04-2016, 09:40 AM
Content updates look more appealing to potential buyers though...

Scott97
06-04-2016, 10:14 AM
Content updates look more appealing to potential buyers though...

But then so would improving reviews from fixes, there's no way reviews will improve until this is sorted:(

dalenotchip
06-04-2016, 02:38 PM
I just thinks it's great that they have a QA department now.

Hersheypark2011
06-04-2016, 02:40 PM
Picture looks fantastic! Just hope the performance improvements are significant. The game still needs a lot of work/features added, but the main thing keeping me from playing much is the awful lag/load times.

rdrunr
06-05-2016, 09:57 AM
Is the June 1 stream on youtube? Twitch never works properly for me.

urdoomd
06-05-2016, 11:38 AM
But then so would improving reviews from fixes, there's no way reviews will improve until this is sorted:(
Why is everyone so worried about this still? I understand that "potential buyers" are appealing and the reviews help, but this is still an unfinished product. It has come a long way so far since it was released to EA and TBH it has probably helped a lot more with the current problems of the game than nvizzio trying to build the game themselves. I had faith that this game would reach its potential after the second update because promises were being kept, now I really have no doubt that nvizzio will make this game what it was meant to be. It has been mention quite a few times that the bigger problems with the game will roll out as a big patch. Some of the incremental stuff we've been seeing is just minor fixes. These will take time, obviously. Until the final release, we shouldn't be down the dev's throats about what needs to be fixed. They already know and they're working on it. The game hasn't officially been released yet and until then, just report anything you find and wait patiently for it to be fixed. If this were a finished product then you would expect them to fix it right away. They have a lot of stuff they're working on so they can't really focus on one thing at a time. They're primary focus is going to be the major issues, but they're also working on some of the smaller things as well. They also have different departments working on stuff too, like the art team who primarily works on scenery, textures etc. so anyone saying they should be fixing the major problems have no idea that there is another team who is primarily working on those as well. The art team shouldn't be dropping what they're doing just to appease to you, because they could end up slowing things down. I doubt they're proficient with that kind of thing. They're working hard at getting content out with this game which is a huge selling point for it also. As it stands, most of the negative reviews came from PC fanboys. So sit down, report any bugs or things you think might improve the game, otherwise, if you have nothing constructive to contribute, shut up and enjoy what you've got so far.

The update looks awesome and I can't wait for the roll out. I just watched the June 1st stream yesterday and I have to say it looks pretty sweet. Wish I had more time or I'd sit down at one of them with you guys. OPTIMIZE! lol.

dalenotchip
06-05-2016, 01:56 PM
You can call the critics PC fanboys all you want but it doesn't change the facts. With the game over 7 months past the announced release date it still has game breaking frame rate issues. So much so that the RCTW fan base that is planning to enter their contest are talking about building the park while paused and then unpausing just long enough to let just a few peeps in for screenshots.

Then saddly Atari will use these screenshots to sucker a few more people into thinking that this is really possible while playing normally.

urdoomd
06-05-2016, 05:29 PM
You can call the critics PC fanboys all you want but it doesn't change the facts. With the game over 7 months past the announced release date it still has game breaking frame rate issues. So much so that the RCTW fan base that is planning to enter their contest are talking about building the park while paused and then unpausing just long enough to let just a few peeps in for screenshots.

Then saddly Atari will use these screenshots to sucker a few more people into thinking that this is really possible while playing normally.
LOL 7 months? Really? Wasn't that like the 3rd time it was supposed to be released? I'm pretty sure it's been WAY over 7 months since this game was supposed to be released. I wasn't calling "critics" PC fanboys. Critics are actually very constructive in their writing and contribute feedback to some degree, unlike the PC fanboys who do nothing but say "get PC. it's way better". It's like me saying "buy apples, they're better than oranges". I'm happy to read comments that aren't biased against or towards something. When it comes down to it, once both games are released it's going to depend on your particular tastes and to base a review on those tastes is bias. I know you don't want to hear it, but let that sink in the next time you read something. Most people don't possess critical thinking, but I'm not one of those people who takes someone's personal opinion into account when making a final decision. What are the pros and cons of each person's point of view compared to my own views etc etc. The game is not finished, plain and simple. To argue that and say it never will be is absolute BS until it actually does, and that's IF it does.

dalenotchip
06-05-2016, 05:55 PM
With your anger level makes me wonder. Are you one of the Developers?

flexityswift
06-05-2016, 10:02 PM
Lol they're probably just sick of seeing every RCTW post flooded with negative, non-constructive comments that don't actually contribute to any meaningful discussion. 😂

Forgath
06-05-2016, 11:57 PM
I'm not reading every negative post as not constructive. Critics are welcome. But the way some are being posted might result in a more difficult discussion.

Inge Jones
06-06-2016, 03:02 AM
As a Sims player I can say the short loading time and relatively low lagging in this game are a dream. How come coaster game players are so relatively fussy about these things compared to Sims players?

Manipulator
06-06-2016, 02:22 PM
As a Sims player I can say the short loading time and relatively low lagging in this game are a dream. How come coaster game players are so relatively fussy about these things compared to Sims players?

Loading times have improved the last updates. It was really long initially. But why the fuss? Well... if you're watching someone on Twitch play around with RCTW and it's loooong loading times... and then start up PC and literally load the park in seconds! Then it becomes clear how long these loading times really are.

Scott97
06-06-2016, 04:37 PM
Critics are actually very constructive in their writing and contribute feedback to some degree, unlike the PC fanboys who do nothing but say "get PC. it's way better". It's like me saying "buy apples, they're better than oranges".

I'll write a proper response to your previous post when I've got more time tomorrow or something, but I can assure you I'm not a PC fanboy and I certainly wasn't saying anything along the lines of get PC it's way better. The fact is that Atari cannot fund development forever, and it NEEDS sales to be able to continue developing it, they're already in debt and RCTW is making a loss. The only way they will achieve sales is by improving reviews, which is by fixing these issues, that was all I was stating. Not get PC because it's way better. Yes there are people who are just trolling and saying PC is better, but I'm not one of them and I was putting forward a valid point thankyou very much!

It is my opinion that these major bugs should be fixed ASAP before content is introduced. Programmers should be sorting out lag and optimisation problems. Art should be doing something with peeps, if not changing them completely at least sorting out they're strange walking/animations. These fixes that need doing are across all departments and what could be a great game is being limited by these flaws which are resulting in negative reviews and a permanently worsening image of the game and brand which (in my opinion, not necessarily the reality) has been permanently tarnished by this excuse of a game AAA game (which has been made worse by the lies and hype which turned out to be false, which I think is actually one of the reasons why these flaws have had the huge impact that they have)

dalenotchip
06-06-2016, 05:50 PM
I'll write a proper response to your previous post when I've got more time tomorrow or something, but I can assure you I'm not a PC fanboy and I certainly wasn't saying anything along the lines of get PC it's way better. The fact is that Atari cannot fund development forever, and it NEEDS sales to be able to continue developing it, they're already in debt and RCTW is making a loss. The only way they will achieve sales is by improving reviews, which is by fixing these issues, that was all I was stating. Not get PC because it's way better. Yes there are people who are just trolling and saying PC is better, but I'm not one of them and I was putting forward a valid point thankyou very much!

It is my opinion that these major bugs should be fixed ASAP before content is introduced. Programmers should be sorting out lag and optimisation problems. Art should be doing something with peeps, if not changing them completely at least sorting out they're strange walking/animations. These fixes that need doing are across all departments and what could be a great game is being limited by these flaws which are resulting in negative reviews and a permanently worsening image of the game and brand which (in my opinion, not necessarily the reality) has been permanently tarnished by this excuse of a game AAA game (which has been made worse by the lies and hype which turned out to be false, which I think is actually one of the reasons why these flaws have had the huge impact that they have)

Jest to add.

Atari Stock is .20 cents. and they have a revenue of around 1.7 million. That's not Profit that's what they bring in, then they have to pay for everything. The 1.7 million has to spread around to all their projects; the stupid movies they are planning, casino games, developing some home projects, etc.

Anyone that thinks Atari can keep throwing money at this without a substantial growth in sales is fooling themselves. And that's a catch 22 because Atari rushed Nivizzo to release it well before it was ready the reviews are so poor that they are not going to see those sales unless they Nivizzo performs a miracle. and Atari is just not giving them time to do that.

So the extremely negative posts is not because we are PC fanboys. It's because we were RCT fanboys dating back to number 1 and we were betrayed and let down. I can't even begin to count the number of people I got to get RCT2. I was a huge word of mouth advertizing agent. Same for RCT3. RCTW, nope. I can't in good conscience ask anybody to shill out $50 for a game that's $10 buck quality.

So are those negative comments constructive? Yes. It lets Atari and Nivizzio know how far they have to go to earn back our good will and they just aren't doing it. With little micro improvements on those zombie peeps. Taking artifacts away (see the fountain thread). answering questions about reasons for decisions with "who knows." Updates creating as many problems as it fixes but trying to distract us with stars. Have we been asking for stars? Will Stars make the game better? Will stars fix the Janitors from not fixing our rides?

Visinith
06-06-2016, 07:30 PM
I'm just passing through, don't care about this conversation above :p But, I'm really digging the new sunrises and sunsets quite a bit. Helps the transition to not be so abrupt. Also, the steps taken to add a mass delete tool is cool, which will make clearing out chunks of trees and foliage that are lumped together a lot easier. Staff zoning being mentioned at all is also a plus. This update seems to address a lot on my personal wish list, so that's super cool. Thanks guys, keep it up.

Forgath
06-07-2016, 01:14 PM
I'm having an update now from about 835mb.

andrewhi
06-07-2016, 02:57 PM
Yep, update seems to be available!

djshotty
06-08-2016, 04:17 AM
Lol they're probably just sick of seeing every RCTW post flooded with negative, non-constructive comments that don't actually contribute to any meaningful discussion. Thing is, when Atari and Nvizzio consistently fail to address the issues those of us in gaming-land are advising them about, making a noise is usually a way to show anger. Shame that the inaction and ignorance of RCTW developers repeatedly proves that method just doesn't work!